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Losing our rags

Jonathan Schofield eats a pie and gets misty-eyed about Lancashire food

Date Published: 05/03/2009

We’re sending out search parties for local dishes.

Next to Rochdale football club on Willbutt’s Lane is one of the best chippies in the North. The only way I can get the kids to attend a game is if I bribe them with a visit there first.

I recall names of dishes such as slappy - pie on a barmcake, babbies yed - meat pudding (pie), slavvery duck - faggot, scraps - fish batter and chips left in cooking fat/oil, pea wet - juice from peas as in 'chips and pea wet'.

On Saturday we noticed rag pudding on the menu board. Rag pudding...yum.

This was a cracker with the delicate suet pastry hiding a treasure chest of rich beef and gravy with onions. Traditionally rag pudding is cooked wrapped in a muslin cloth rag which makes the pastry as soft and yielding as flesh. Cloth in Lancashire's cotton districts was obviously a readily available commodity.

As soon as the first bite was in my mouth I had one of those Proustian moments and had instant and total recall of my mum’s classic Lancashire cooking.

These were the joys of my youth.

Cow heel pie; steak and gelatinous heel cooked together in gravy under a pastry topping or as a stew.

Tripe; that lovely stomach lining of a cow, eaten cold with plenty of vinegar.

Emerald eggs; fine chopped parsley placed in the buttered cups of the egg poacher and the eggs turned out with the parsley on top.

Glorious Lancashire Hotpot; trimmed lamb chops, potatoes, onions, mushrooms, in layers, with trimmed lambs’ kidneys as an optional extra.

Faggots; off cuts of offal combined to meaty perfection, the Lancashire haggis.

Rag pudding in Rochdale, very very fine


On Bonfire Night, there were black peas, soaked for 24 hours, boiled up and eaten again with copious quantities of vinegar. And alongside black peas, home-made mushy peas.

Manchester tarts begin the local food fight back


Also in autumn there was parkin, a sweet cake of lard, flour, ginger, oatmeal, treacle and ginger.

Black pudding of course.

Home made bread.

I recall names of dishes such as slappy - pie on a barmcake, babbies yed - meat pudding (pie), slavvery duck - faggot, scraps - fish batter and chips left in cooking fat/oil, pea wet - juice from peas as in 'chips and pea wet'.

There was also the sweet stuff: Manchester tarts, Eccles cakes, trifles, bilberry pie, the berries picked from the moors, apple tarts, scones.

A few weeks ago a visiting journalist asked me what were the Lancashire specialities and I ran through the list above, but also including cheeses and daft sweets such Uncle Joe’s Mintballs and Love Hearts.

I mentioned drinks too such as the vast amount of ales from the region and temperance drink survivals such as Vimto. I referred to Fitzpatricks Herbal Health, the temperance bar in Rawtenstall, with its lush dandelion and burdock, sarsaparilla, black beer and so forth.

He noted the drinks and the various places he could buy them, and he sought out the cheeses in the delis.

“But where can you go to eat cow heel pie, tripe, rag pudding?” he rang back.

That was a bugger. I could scarcely think of anywhere. At least now I know where there’s rag pudding and I know black pies are available at Stalybridge buffet bar.

So that’s why we’re sending out the search parties. Or maybe we need to open a Lancashire and north west food gaff in town?

We have a rich tradition of regional food here, as rich as anywhere in Northern Europe, so where’s it gone?

If you can let us know of any local dishes in pubs, restaurants, cafes and chippies across the region, we’d be grateful.

Drake says..“ This must be a different Jonathan Schofield to the one who wrote in his review of one local bistro, "There is great play of buying locally and regionally. Ticks boxes I suppose, but frankly I really couldn't care less where the food is from"

Jonathan Schofield says..“ Thanks for remembering my words Drake. With certain restaurants I don't care where the food comes from as long as it's cooked well. What I do care about is that good local dishes survive such as cow heel pie. That's two very different points. Also restaurants shouldn't need to ram local provenance down our necks but because it makes sense in terms of costs and so forth just quietly go about getting veg from West Lancashire without telling us.

Drake says..“ An entertaining lack of logic in your reply Mr S. You want local recipes to survive, but not necessarily the local ingredients in them? You want them to survive, but don't necessarily want restaurants to be cooking them? You support local provenance and ask where local dishes have gone, but don't want that provenance rammed 'down our necks' (not sure how one is meant to eat the food then)--how will you find out about it/them then?.

A better response, given your long record in supporting local provenance, might have been, 'I'm a journalist so I sometimes say things I don't believe for effect.'

Keith says..“ My mum still does cow heel pie too, but you have to ask the butcher specially for the ingredients. On a cold morning it really gets you going.

Karen H says..“ Well the problem is that these are very labour intensive dishes and now people don't want to spend the time making them.

mark m says..“ That is part of the joy I think. Taking those cheap ingredients and turning them onto something marvelous over a long time. Usually end up with something far tastier than you could ever get with a more expensive cut of meat

K says..“ Chorley Market sells tripe, wazzle etc. The tripe stall closed down but the fish stalls sell most things that the old tripe stall sold.

John Mcr says..“ C'mon everyone knows you can get Tripe and Black Puddings from Bury Market, the market is famous for selling these items so hardly scarce!

Billy Uss says..“ The main reason many of these dishes are hard to come by in restaurants is, of course, that they're often ludicrously unhealthy - for example, anything with suet or lard or scraps in it basically involves a pointlessly excessive intake of artery-clogging, ration-book grot used as a cheap subsititute for cleaner, leaner stuff. It might taste good, but so does a fine, rich, gooey cheese - doesn't mean I'm happy to sit and chow through a whole bowl of it, though; I'll just have a small taste and then move on. This isn't really an option with such labour-intensive dishes, though, so you end up having to compromise between big flavours and a big belly! Maybe a Mancunian restauranteur who comes up with viable recipes for much healthier, lighter, but equally tasty versions of these local classics will be on to a winner, though. And if anyone actually uses that idea for a menu, I'm claiming a cut! ;)

arny says..“ try morris's butchers in farnworth for faggots and slavvery ducks and thompsons chippy in bury for rag pudding

Ali McGowan says..“ F*ck the calories - you can always go for a run later ;)

Toldham says..“ Blimey id hate to be a southerner....theyve never even heard of Vimto!!

lobster69 says..“ The chippy in Top Mossley does a good home made rag pudding. Also good home made cheese & onion and beef & onion pies. Only open until 7:30 in the evening though.

Drake says..“ Weirdly, vimto is huge in Egypt and some of the other Arab North African countries. A result of a wartime sales drive I reckon (and the lack of alcohol in it obviously)

mark m says..“ Is odd , but the war did some very strange things to peoples drinking habits. Look at accrington and the surrounding area. 80%; of the entire production of benedictine is drunk in Accrington!! all the pubs have it on the optics, drunk with hot water as a 'benny and hot. Apparently the accrington infantry was holed up where it is made, and the monks used to come out and give it to them to keep warm. they then brought it back home with them. an interesting, if totally useless fact!

mark m says..“ Although i might be exaggerating slightly with the 80%; figure!

Grub Up says..“ Black peas at all the stalls in Victoria Square, Bolton and at Ashton Farmers Market. By the way Jonathan, bilberries are called "wimberries" round 'ere!. P.S. Are you sure you had mushy peas with your black peas - I wouldn't like to stand down wind of you if you did!

Roberto says..“ I cook Lancashire Hotpot almost every week. Surely this isn't a lost dish?

wayne says..“ Black pudding yum is everywhere. But where do I get a good hotpot in a pub

Wayne says..“ And for that matter a good Manchester tart and some good faggots

Janie Mac says..“ Faggots I love them. I once had some in a pub in North Manchester: three Arrows maybe, would love to know where to get them again

Treveor Eve says..“ It's not the Three Arrows.....Strawbury Duck maybe?

Avo says..“ Could well be the Three Arrows on Middleton Road next to Heaton Park. That pub is renowned for its good food.

cleo says..“ i went there on sunday. fabulous.

Avo says..“ You certainly get about a bit don't ya!

Steve says..“ Billy uss, re your comments, yes it may not be that healthy but who's advocating that you eat it on a daily basis?? A cassoulet isn't very healthy but it's a fantastic and very famous dish from South West France that is sold in many restaurants. I regularly eat tripe whether I have it at home using an Italian recipe with tomatoes, garlic and chilli or at Glamorous where there are 3 different types on the dim sum menu. All of these dishes are very healthy. They also sell beef tendon....now there's a texture experience!! A little of what you fancy does you good Billy boy.

Lou says..“ Sams chop house currently has faggots on the menu, and steak pudding.

cleo says..“ avo, what exactly are you intimating?

Andy says..“ Drake, Vimto in the Midlle East is produced to a different, sweeter recipe. The cordial is much more syrupy. It's popular during Ramadan for breaking fast. As for tripe on Bury market. Indeed it is but I'm buggered if I know of a restaurant that serves it round these parts. Which I think is where Jonathan is coming from?

Avo says..“ Erm, what I meant to say was you like to travel around in search of fine food Cleo! :)

Mildredmopton says..“ If you want to cook rag puddings yourselves and not get from a chippy, then head off to buy them from (Tommy) Toppings Butchers, the only surviving, true family, run butchers in Ramsbottom (Bolton St)

Grub Up says..“ you can get rag puddings to cook at home from Odessa just opposite HMV in Bolton. Derrrrlicious! P.S. No response from JS re "wimberries"

Chippychap says..“ Tod market will supply you with Cow Heel, tripe, raggy puddings, black puds etc. The 3 fishes has tripe in one of its dishes (meat platter)

outragedofm1 says..“ Good work Drake in nailing the humbug! oh and for pies and hotpots in the city I use the Lass O'Gowrie on Charles Street

Venues are rated against the best examples of their kind: fine dining against the best fine dining, cafes against the best cafes. Following on from this the scores represent: 1-5 saw your leg off and eat it, 6-9 get a DVD, 10-11 if you must, 12-13 if you?re passing,14-15 worth a trip,16-17 very good, 17-18 exceptional, 19 pure quality, 20 perfect. More than 20: Gordo gets carried away

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